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  • ek_bechara
    10-15 02:37 PM
    I wrote this once before and I will say it one last time. Pulling stunts such as the flower campaign is XYZ. May be not to the extent we feel it should, but USCIS does realize that there are issues with how it is handling cases. It is doing the best it can with the limited resources it is being provided. Please dont embarrass USCIS anymore. Would you keep calling a blind person, blind? Please stop this childish behavior. If anything lets start thinking about CIR and how we can influence changes to favor legal immigrants. We have the time now so start lobbying for changes.

    Kindly note that you are dealing with a established government entity. Stop adopting hindi movie ideas when interacting with USCIS. If it were so easy why not arrange "naach-gana" for USCIS everyday. We can invite Malaika Sherawat for half the price we are paying to lobby. Skimpy clothes, raunchy songs, and alcohol may mesmerize the visa officer into stamping 100 K greencards everyday.

    I bet there were a good number of closed door meetings, lobbying, and lets throw a bone to keep them quiet for sometime- discussions that translated into the July fiasco.

    I believe we are educated and sane people, so lets start doing the right thing.

    Enough said.





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  • Dakota Newfie
    07-03 11:27 AM
    I admit, it seems discriminatory to say you can't get your GC now because you're from this country or that country but these "high volume" countries have created the current back log through their sheer numbers and sometimes multiple applications, not the system. The system is fair to ALL and for some group to say that it isn't fair because all of that group isn't getting what they want is unjust to the rest of us. I knew I would be pounced upon when I submitted my original post and it only proves my point of personal agendas; sometimes I wonder what the "I" in "IV" really stands for? Don't be so arrogant as to believe that your higher education should give you more rights than others - that doesn't fly with me! I am frustrated with this forum because of this arrogance and I may not visit too much longer!

    I do have one question for all of you who are in favor of eliminating the per country limit; do you support an eventual road to citizenship for the large group of people who dominate the "other side" of immigration? If you don't, some may think you hipocritical to want the rules changed for yourselves!





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  • xyzgc
    01-17 11:56 PM
    Got lots of reds as expected. Excuse me for using strong words. I'm sympathetic towards everyone who has lost jobs or fears layoffs. I have weathered the 2001 storm in the valley. It was horrible. However, people buy expensive real estate without obtaining permanent residency first and then start laughing at others for being so conservative. Its utter stupidity. In one of the other threads I was arguing with some one over whether its a good time to buy a house or not. I am totally for buying a house even in these uncertain times provided you are a dual income and provided you have your green card and despite that some folks didn't agree with me at all!

    Today, buying hiouses is risky but folks don't realize if you are on H1B, it is a temp visa you are sticking your neck out. Even if you have your EAD, it doesn't mean shit. If your employer revokes your 140 you are more or less doomed, unless you are very lucky. Now, please don't dispute this statement of mine by presenting legal facts.

    I look at it this way, your gc is controlled by your employer, you get laid off by your employer, your company has ZERO interest in keeping your job position alive and considering employing you at a future date. Period.

    H1B is not green card, EAD is not green card, your PD being current is not a green card.f you think you can transfer your H1 with some consulting firm and retain H1 status on bench, you are playing with fire.

    Giving reds to me is not going to change the basic facts. Leaving your cars and your houses behind without paying your dues is the worst crime in the book. It destroys your credibility. Not only that you, main street, are then responsible for mortgage crisis and then you coolly blame the wall street and Mr. Bush for everything that goes wrong.





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  • rimzhim
    01-28 11:04 AM
    I don’t want to start another war here but all I am asking for is a fair treatment of people and not discriminate against people based on country of birth. One of the reasons I left my country, India, is because of the discriminating that exists there in terms of "reservations" where everything is reserved based on your caste for 50%. Now please dont tell me reservations and country cap are different, they are not different they are the same. they accomplish the same purpose in case of skilled immigration.I never thought such a thing would happen in US but it seems worst here because Indians and Chinese make up almost 70 to 80% of H1 (which is dual intent) but when it comes to employment based green cards (which are based on H1) Indians and Chinese combined get only 14% of the visas, don’t you see the tragedy here? Why don’t they enforce the country cap on H1 also, that way people from India and china will not have to suffer worse than others? But US is a competitive country, they want the best available talent for H1 and that’s the reason they don’t put country caps on H1.

    Take my case for example, I have come to this country in 1999 on F1 and have been working and paying takes since 2001. I am not even able to apply for 485. If I get laid off now I will have to leave US next year. Contrast this with somebody from Taiwan, UK or some non retrogressed country. In some cases they can get green card within the first year of coming to US. This is not a hypothetical case but a scenario which is happening quite often, especially in EB2. In my own company I have seen people (6 so far) who are 5 years junior to me (i.e joined the company 5 years after I did) get a green card where as I am dazed and confused and haven’t even applied for 485.

    I totally agreed with country caps in non skilled immigration, because the only criteria is that you don’t have any diseases and don’t have a criminal background. But in skilled immigration it does not make sense to apply country caps unless you apply country caps in H1. but US is a competitive country, they want the best available talent for H1and that’s the reason they don’t put country caps on H1.
    I understand your plight, but then the solution is to put a country cap to H1. Also, I respectfully disagree with comparing your situation in regards to caste etc in your country to country-cap based quotas in the US. This has only happened because the number of H1s for many years exceeded the number of GCs allowed every yr. The US does believe in some diversity which is why they have affirmative action, and the country cap has been imposed in the same spirit. Affirmative action will not go away from the US even if it is, as you say, same thing as caste-based reservations in your home country. I agree: there should be a country cap on H1 also and the total number of H1 per yr should never exceed the number of GCs per yr.



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  • justAnotherFile
    07-24 01:28 PM
    no offense meant..

    .. but if "the law is the law" and there is no room for "interpretation" then lawyers will be out of business :)

    I guess that is why congress also publishes the "intent of congress" with every legislative bill to guide interpretations, because there will be situations and cases which test the limits of law and they cannot visualize that while writing a law.





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  • GCBy3000
    01-17 11:34 AM
    it is a slow process. This recurring contribution is a good process in long run. We will inspire our members to contribute. This will grow in to thousands eventually. Keep up the good work with our core objectives.

    /\/\/\/

    bumping up the thread since this is the most crtical thing for us to achieve at this time so that we can put more resources at work in the coming months. As everyone could see on this thread, only few members have signed up for recurring contributions. We sent emails to all 8000+ members and the emails are still bouncing. Members have put fake email addresses. Despite repeated requests members have not updated their profile. In future when we send out updates by email or phone, such members will not get any updates too.

    Since yesterday more than 2000 members have visited IV site and read this thread. We did not even get 1/100th of members signing up for this and contributing as little as $20.

    Is this your commitment to the cause?



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  • jonty_11
    03-18 03:33 PM
    Dont pin any hopes, only to see them come crashing down....
    The dates will retrogress again as USCIS realizes the mamoth amount of applications for EB2 - India that are in the pipeline which they may not even have accounted for yet.

    We are in for a long wait unless we get admin fixes or legislation...
    PLease support IVs campaigns...





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  • sureshj
    06-08 02:18 PM
    To solve the FBI name check problem, the following suggestions should be communicated to lawmaker if possible:

    1. Increase the fundings for FBI name check. The major reason of name check delay is due to lack of resources for manual name check.

    2. Introduce a conditional Green Card. Conditional green card is equivalent to green card, except with condition that it could be taken back IF AND ONLY IF the name check eventually fails to pass. Person with conditional green card enjoy all the benefits with normal green card, including transfering job freely, re-enter US freely, count years to citizenship, etc.

    3. People wants to file 485 can ask FBI do name check before they actaully file 485 with a certain amount of filing fee. So that the delay for FBI name check will not impact 485 processing too much.


    I could'nt agree with gcdreamer more...

    Consider this...
    1. FBI, I believe, has 2 rookie analysts dedicated to processing name checks and I heard USCIS pays $25 per name check.
    2. FBI has distributed databases in NY, CA, FL, etc. that are not networked. So they have to request name checks individually out of these databases.
    3. Name check ranks least in their priority list.
    4. FBI has increased their name check criteria from 2 (First name and Last Name) to, I think it is, 7 or 8 (part of the first name, part of the last name and few other combinations). This increases the chances of your name generating "hits" and falling into this blackhole.
    In addition to the above FBI (which normally receives ~1.5m name check requests per year) received ~6m in 2003. They are still recovering from that deluge. So now you see what's causing the delay.

    For USCIS this works out fine, since they rake in 15% of their annual revenue from EAD/AP renewals. They do not want to mess with this "free money" and reduce the processing time. And to top it all they can transfer the blame on FBI.

    In addition, to secure this "money train" USCIS cleverly issued a public memo earlier this year indicating WOM cases will be fought in court. To most this would have seemed like the end of WOM, but it is not. Applicants have since filed and won these cases. However the memo probably had its' desired effect...to discourage a majority of the applicants from filing WOM.

    I think USCIS has to be made accountable for the money they earn. The $25/name check is just not sufficient. More funding is necessary so that FBI can allocate more analysts to the job and also upgrade their IT infrastructure. Excuses such as "ball is in FBI's court" is just not acceptable. "Conditional Green card" (as suggested by gcdreamer) is excellant idea to alleviate the problems the "name check" victims face over the ~2 to 4 years they spend in this blackhole.

    PS: Just in case you are not aware of Senator Obama's initiative to address this problem here is a link where you can sign-up for whatever it is worth.
    http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?nc082505&1



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  • ambrishmisra
    04-10 02:05 PM
    My wife is in US since Aug, 2006 on H4.

    We missed the H1-B filing last year and it doesn't look good this year too (although her petition got submitted on the first day).

    Her last four years job profile (as of now):
    - 2.5 years for 'Company A' (one of the top 3 Indian s/w company)
    - 10 months for 'Company B'
    - 8 months on H4 (in US) - NO work

    Can she apply through 'Company A' for an L1 (as she has worked more than a year continuously in the last three years)?
    OR its only for an company you are working for currently?

    Any help will be greatly appreciated.





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  • reddymjm
    09-10 01:38 PM
    Here is a brief calculation of EB2 Demand till date (Today's Date)
    The total demand till date is ~ 120K which is
    Demand up to Aug 2007 = 45K
    Sep 2007 to Dec 2008 = 16 * 2.5K Perm Month = 40K
    Jan 2009 to Oct 2010 = 22 * 1.5K per month = 33K
    New PD porting after Aug 2007 (Current Eb3 Inventory is 60K till Aug 2007) = 10K
    Total 45 + 40 + 33 + 10 = 128K. This may be inflated but it is atleast 120K.

    By giving these numbers I don�t mean to scare anybody but it�s better to have a tryst with true reality rather than be ignorant. It is better to have an understanding of the backlog rather than feeling bad VB after VB, nothing will change soon because the backlog is so huge.

    If you look at the numbers it is very unlikely that EB2 will literally become current any time soon, the end of the pre-adjudicated numbers is just a tipping point and when this happens anything could happen 1) Make dates current (I personally welcome that atleast everybody gets a chance to file for I485) 2) Keep accepting applications in a controlled manner so as to approve in quarter or year. 3) Grant spillover to EB3 ROW (EB3 ROW backlog is so huge like EB2 - I in the same range 100-120K that the spillover will disappear in no time, also note that EB3 ROW incremental demand is much higher than EB2 ROW).
    The spillover is a happening of the present time when the economy is bad, the moment this changes everything will disappear and there will be no difference between EB2 and EB3 if you belong to a retrogressed country we will all be at 3K Per annum and EB5 contribution if any will be consumed by PD porting which will increase manifold as EB3-I folks waiting for 10 years is simply unacceptable, currently there a 60K folks here just till 2007. I strongly favor porting waiting for 10 years is unacceptable. Also being without EAD / AP is very hard, great that we have a IV campaign initiated for this the efforts in this direction are laudable. Actually as Pappu, Admin2 and others have been saying EB3-EB2 even though may be relevant now is actually meaningless this is relevant only in this temporary phase of time fighting on these lines will not help to attain any objective rather it will kill chances of EB3 friends with later PD to port. The biggest issue is the per country limits which equate talent pools like India and China and give them the same cap as countries which have 1/1000th population, if they cannot be eliminated atleast should be proportionate to population for larger countries and be at 7% for the smaller ones. PS - I have nothing personal against ROW friends.

    If USCIS wants to do another JULY 2007 they never learnt their lession. With the Quarterly/annual quota I dont think USCIS legally can make EB2 current. I hate another JULY 2007 for sure.



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  • eb3retro
    08-17 12:14 PM
    Chill guys just kidding no point getting worked up about all this.I know it's causing a lot of angst.The best course of action is to get back to our lives and let the chips fall as they may.


    you write some ridiculous stuff in your first post and you want us to chill out. Get a sense of this board and its professional members, before you post any nonsense like that.





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  • vin
    06-13 11:21 AM
    thought that the video was quite funny. Now for some one to think that it is true is even more funny

    LOL true. I think the clip must've been made for comedy central.



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  • hpandey
    04-24 10:57 AM
    Wish you best of luck !!





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  • pappu
    07-01 06:11 PM
    Everyone is busy partying.
    No we are not partying. Welcome to IV. Please update your profile with full information. Thanks.





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  • .soulty
    03-09 08:00 PM
    just enter whatever you have on the date and then fix it up after.. no drama, you can always use this piece for a portfolio or something and you can showcase it later.



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  • ak27
    01-09 10:02 AM
    Hi Guys,
    I was out last week. I am back now. Last time when we had a conference call, we decided to post flyers about immigration voice in our local communities and also getting in touch with the local newspapers. Since everyone is back from the holidays now, lets have a conference call next Wednesday. Till then, please post as many flyers as possible to increase IV's awareness.

    Thanks,
    Varsha
    Varsha,

    Are we on for concall. Please post it again...





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  • amitjoey
    07-03 04:15 PM
    I understand your concern, it could be a waste of time and might not get us relief, but look, we have been trying to raise awareness and get media attention. And this law-suit will definately get us attention and open up debate about legal-immigrants.
    Lawsuit against USCIS, generates a lot of media articles and also the wrong-doing will be highlighted and brought to the administration's attention.


    WHY funds man..Please concentrate on something else instead of working on this lawsuit. It is waste of time I think..This is my openion.

    Ask funds for some other work but not for lawsuit..





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  • setpit_gc
    04-22 02:15 AM
    Hi

    I am on H1 and have approved EAD.

    Do I need to send H1 copy or EAD copy along with other documents for AP renewal?

    Thanks for your help!.





    GC9180
    01-17 06:54 PM
    xyzgc,

    "If he had lost his job, he wouldn't bull-shitting around like this on public forums."
    What he spoke was what one goes thru at that point of time, this happens to people who have lots of responsibility..maintain family, medical insurance, loans etc. If one has few $$millions$$ (i assume you have, as you assumed about him bull-shi**ing) then one does not worry about layoff or madoff..for the job was just a pass-time.

    "pretend to be shell-shocked" to accuse anybody without proof, in soft words you spoke lies about him, in hard words one can call you a liar.





    masouds
    02-15 05:09 PM
    US government thinks that Indians and Chinese don't mix up with other races. Are u on drugs ??????????????????:mad:

    Look, I don't want to enter a pissing match with anyone here. Go read your history (http://americanhistory.suite101.com/article.cfm/limiting_the_huddled_masses) before jumping to conclusions.



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  • ItIsNotFunny
    01-09 09:28 AM
    Foolish argument...In the US most of the IT interviews happen via phone especially for consultants. And there r tens of hundreds of cases where an experienced guy takes the call and the fresher shows up at the job. Cheating organizations like this has become a trend and this was started and is still religiously being followed mostly (99.99%) by gultis (remember what that F***** gulti did to Satyam?)...As a guy whoz supporting fake experience, u shud be thrown behind bars and I'm sure u r a gulti.

    I guess the US govt is aware of stuff like this and hence playing with our lives by delaying the Greencard process. Shame on u guyz...All of us have been put to suffering becoz of fake ppl like u.

    What do you mean by "U guys"?





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  • Googler
    02-22 11:43 PM
    All this discussion about revealing sources and gaining fame is really funny from my pov.

    AILA liaison reports routinely name this official, news reports also routinely name this official. He has also testified before Congress and those transcripts are freely available to those who look. If you have not heard his name before and do not know he is the one who sets cutoff dates, it is only because you haven't been paying attention in class...:)

    Also in this case it was Ron Gotcher reporting on the AILA So Cal Liaison meeting who revealed his name in the first place.

    I should also add that I have no special connection with this or any other official (sigh -- wouldn't I have my greencard already if I did). I've done my share of research since I got stuck in retrogression in Oct 2005, and have exercised my rights as a stakeholder in the immigration process to pick up the phone and ask questions where ever I can. Knowing the sections of the INA, the contents of the Ombudsmans Reports, CRS reports etc. tends to make people very responsive.

    As for the reason for me sharing this information -- which after all I could have just sat on for myself -- was because I would want the same -- if someone found out something that potentially was going to affect my greencard I would want to know. I want to know every possible shred of information.

    Of course maybe that is what I should do the next time. Just sit tight.:D





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  • zuhail
    03-10 03:49 PM
    Of all 4 the proposals made by vbkris77,
    I would just stick with one and only one:
    RE-CAPTURING VISA NUMBERS.

    If we add any other item like re validating H1B inside US,accountability for USCIS etc, the message would bound to get lost. It will get bogged down by the details of implementing the other proposals. The devil is always in the details.

    I think we need to stick to single target of visa re-capturing (with no mention of the word H1B in the legislation). There should be no crap about H1B workers stealing jobs nor granting pardon for illegals. Visa re-capture is for educated foreign-born professionals currently employed in US.

    Many ask if this is the right time. When will be the right time?. Are we asking anything that has not been already granted by the law?. These past visa numbers have been already approved by the law but not used by the USCIS.

    The time is RIGHT NOW.
    It is interesting why IV team is not taking up this one item and start fund raising.
    May be the team has some valid reasons for not doing so. I could only guess.
    But waiting for the right time to take up this agenda of re-capturing visa numbers is not a valid reason. That is totally hopeless.





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  • tjayant
    11-20 07:08 PM
    Here is my advice to folks trying to jump job just for $$$, even if the GC situation is bad , money should never be the only factor in moving for another job, plan long term , actually from what I know only startups have good opening but highly unstable so it is a catch 22 for most of the folks, I would suggest if you are in fortune 500 companies and the job is boring and salary is bad stick with it for 2 more years , if you cannot get the GC in the next 1-2 years I dont think you will ever get it, this is applicable for folks who applied GC during 2003/2004, 3+2=5years , for folks who has applied for GC after 2004 you can do what you want !!., here again look for favorable environment, Govt's change and policy change so make hay while the sun shine !!, so if the policy is favorable even if the job is bad but you can get the GC in 1-2 year i would stick with that company, because you will never know what will happen after 2 years , It looks to me like we might be in a cusp of policy change similar to 1999/2000, if you miss this boat you may have to wait for another 6-7 years. But again if my understanding is correct America is like a ocean and there is room for everyone , so no one need to be scared of GC etc, every one will get it in some form or other eventually , it is only a matter of time. As far myself iam still waiting for LC, but never really bothered about GC during my 9+ years stay , I just did what I wanted , but after 9 years I would like to move to a startup but controlling myself with the above logic !!!, But one good thing about waiting for GC is it made me a better person personally in learning ton's of stuff valuable for long run. so there is always pluses, everybody wants to be a Pirate (do what we wanted like jump job's at the fist obstacle/temptation $$$) but sometimes it is good to be controlled by external factors to get the best of ourselfs.



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  • Pineapple
    06-13 12:03 PM
    Impact of rule 2 will be minimal and that rule will be really used not to displace
    US workers if that is the purpose. If companies are not really displacing US workers why should they bother about this rule? This rule will certainly minimise the outsourcing by laying off people as H1b persons are required for offshore co-ordination.

    Rule 3 is putting ad that is just like a Labor process in green card. It will delay h1b hiring for a month and really impact will be minimal

    Those 2 rules are worth if companies can get best people in the world(that was the intention of H1b program. That is what Google and Microsoft are arguing)

    Correct me if my understanding is wrong.
    What exactly is your point Senthil?
    If by reiterating (over and over) the "evilness" of "desi" companies insofar as impacting American workers is concerned and justifying absurdly and obviously restrictionist bills on the fond hope that it would have minimal impact on the "good" American companies who hire H1s in the exception, you wish to make it clear that you are an employee of the latter set of companies, you have certainly made your point, and do not need 364 posts to hammer it it.
    Ladies and gentlemen, Senthil is a genuine, bona fide high skilled person working for an honest American company which has high ethical standards, and is not, repeat, NOT displacing any son of the soil American.
    There - you can relax now.





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  • sodh
    07-23 03:39 PM
    Do you have any document from CIS? Need some proof to fight.
    Important missing documents,USCIS can reject an application on their discretion, no need for RFE.



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  • sammyb
    04-23 08:46 PM
    congrats to your long awaited GC ... hope you still continue your association with IV and share exclusive news with us :) ...


    All,

    Opened my email this morning to see the card production ordered email (time stamp in my inbox reads 2:15 am PST 4/23/08); the approval date was 4/23/08.

    Been in meetings all day so not even a chance to call anyone about it.

    Yay!

    Good luck to all my fellow sufferers!

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  • Buran
    02-15 01:09 PM
    Everybody stands in one single queue......one line not five lines......one line my friend, irrespective of your nationality. so if you wait 2 years, or 2 hours..I wait the same. Unlike NOW, where some people wait 5-8 years and others 1-2 years.

    I don\'t want to stand in line three times longer just because 60 percent of the applicants are natives of one country. Look what\'s going on with H-1B. There is no per-country quota and ROW is simply screwed.



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  • svr_76
    07-29 11:51 AM
    Filing H1 and GC(Perm) are 2 different problems. H1 is temporarily hiring a skilled resource whereas GC is the intent to sponser for permanent immigration. And hence PERM processing is more involved.

    Big corporation, which have to maintain accurate HR job descriptions/codes etc find that during PERM advertisement, they do find qualified applicants. At that point they cannot continue the process. This "recruitment" process is the most costly of the entire GC process and if they "find/receive" applications from qualified citizens/GC holders/Or ppl who dont need sponsership (read EAD) then they have to stop that process....

    So saying that we will do GC is fine..but the current ground realities are different. You can get GC done from Desi consultant bcos the skirt the whole issue and "make" up the job requirement they want..well (read hell) they will even run fake pay stubs for u...so they can do wonders.





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  • p_kumar
    02-21 10:09 AM
    If possible, please change it without any delay? EB3 is only able to cross past May 2001 for 3 times in last 3 years where EB2 are enjoying GC most of time. No point in playing wait game with EB3 India. Otherwise, you will wait for-ever. :)

    How does one "change" to EB2?. I have a PD of Oct 2003 EB3. Should i submit a new labor and if it is approved my category will be EB2 PD Oct 2003?. Should i also file another I-140?.

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  • sheela
    10-16 07:14 PM
    It looks like someone just walked by put red dot with "." as comment to everyone. Gave one to me too... Just ignore. Its not important. More important is what exactly we want to do.

    Whatever we decide, lets finalize and start working on it. I remember famous quote from Walt Disney: "The best way to get something done is start doing it."

    I donot care but it simply tell some people are intelluctually bankrupt
    and use RED dots to block any healthy discussion on forum
    My suggestion: Come on and show your real worth rather than using red dots





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  • tapukakababa
    07-18 11:30 AM
    I checked with someone who has hired Rajiv Khanna and they said the same thing to him. So far, they have not generated any rejection notice for any application filed on and after July 2nd. Since this came from Rajiv Khanna I would think that it's some what credible information.

    We will just have to wait and see till our checks get cashed!

    see my earlier post



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  • Ramba
    07-14 05:52 PM
    I filed for 485 during July 2007. My 140 was already approved. Due to some problems I quit my employer in August 2007. My previous employer was a desi blood sucker. I was fed up & decided to quit after working for him for 3 years. I applied for H1 transfer with a new employer based on approved 140. I got H1 approval for another 3 years. Currently I am working for the new H1 sponsoring employer. I also received an EAD card based on pending 485 for one year. I didnt notify USICS of job change in July.

    I applied for EAD extension this year. The application for EAD extension is pending. I got a following RFE on my 485:
    Please state whether or not you are currently working for your I-140 petitioner.
    You must submit a currently dated letter from you permanent employer, describing your present job duties & position in the organization, your proferred position (if different from your current one), the date you began employement & the offered salary & wage. The letter must also indicate whether the terms & conditions of your employement based visa petition (or labor certification) continue to exist, even if you change the employer before 180 days completion of 485 filing.

    I am not in good terms with my previous employer so I cant ask him for a letter. I can ask my new employer for such a letter.
    Will USCIS come to know I quite Employer A before completing 180 days?
    Also is it possible that 140 was revoked by my previous employer?
    What document should I send to USCIS now?

    You quit the sponsorer within a month of 485 filing. No problem. You are still covered under AC21. As per AC21 memo, if your 485 is pending more than 6 months it is still valid, no matter when you chage the job. Forget your previous desi employer. Sumbit the letter from your current employer with all the details that USCIS looking for in RFE. Your 485 will be fine if it is similar job to your previous one. If you are not working for him now dont sent a letter from him. Be genuine. Your lawer should clearly write in the RFE letter that the terms & conditions of your employement based visa petition (or labor certification) continue to exist based on the AC21 law that allows the change of employer.





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  • gc_aspirant_prasad
    09-11 06:54 PM
    ^^^ Bump ^^^^



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  • GCBatman
    01-09 08:54 AM
    Here is the answer would you hire me now :D
    When several operations occur in an expression, each part is evaluated and resolved in a predetermined order called operator precedence. Parentheses can be used to override the order of precedence and force some parts of an expression to be evaluated before other parts. Operations within parentheses are always performed before those outside. Within parentheses, however, normal operator precedence is maintained.

    When expressions contain operators from more than one category, arithmetic operators are evaluated first, comparison operators are evaluated next, and logical operators are evaluated last. Comparison operators all have equal precedence; that is, they are evaluated in the left-to-right order in which they appear. Arithmetic and logical operators are evaluated in the following order of precedence:

    Arithmetic (Exponentiation (^),Negation (-),Multiplication and division (*, /),Integer division (\),Modulus arithmetic (Mod),Addition and subtraction (+, -),String concatenation (&))
    Comparison (Equality (=),Inequality (<>),Less than (<),Greater than (>), Less than or equal to (<=),Greater than or equal to (>=),Is)
    Logical (Not,And,Or,Xor,Eqv,Imp,&)


    When multiplication and division occur together in an expression, each operation is evaluated as it occurs from left to right. Likewise, when addition and subtraction occur together in an expression, each operation is evaluated in order of appearance from left to right.

    The string concatenation operator (&) is not an arithmetic operator, but in precedence it does fall after all arithmetic operators and before all comparison operators. The Is operator is an object reference comparison operator. It does not compare objects or their values; it checks only to determine if two object references refer to the same object.


    ....An experience guy might find it difficult to answer questions like �what is operator precedence?� ....





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  • akp22
    07-13 06:13 PM
    Yes, they can do a lot more than 25 k in 2 months.
    EB2 folks, please get prepared for RFEs - a few possibilities.
    1. Medicals, outdated physicals, PPD positive etc.
    2. Passport expired since applying for I-485 last summer.
    3. Father's or Mother's name misspelled.
    4. DOB discrepancies.
    5. Translations of documents
    6. Find those old pay-stubs, bank records, W2s, I-20s
    7. Google yourself and your spouse.

    Yes, I got RFE on birth cert....



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  • preddy2k
    07-24 01:20 PM
    Any July 2nd filers got their receipt #s?

    My package has been sent to TSC on July 2nd around 9AM by FedEx. Did not hear anything yet.





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  • nomi
    12-12 07:13 PM
    nomi,

    I am very surprised that there is not as much interest in this thread as I had expected but you are doing great in trying to explore this avenue. I wish I had some of the answers. Keep up the good work.



    I will look into it. I think everyone should look into it and try to find some solution. All IV member sends so many fax to US Senate and called all Senators which was good effort from all of us. Now if we send six thousands fax to USCIS same day...Don`t you guy think that USCIS will notice our problems and discuss them in their enternal meeting and ask US Senate or Congress to discuss this issue as early as possible. I know IV is doing great job and I am with IV but all I am saying we should put some pressure on USCIS too so they can see we are in pain and they do their job to get us some relief.

    If we do this then , USCIS will also support us too since we are right and we are asking some relief about green card.

    Guys come on ...Think about it too. We can do it if IV approve it and everyone help. We should bother USCIS too about our issue so they can contact lawmakers and tell them about our pain. No body care if we don`t speak up.

    Please tell me if we send 6000 fax same day don`t you think we will be in IV will be in headline and if we keeping doing same thing then some one will listen our issues and give us some temp. relief.

    Please come and Take the lead in this regard and Request USCIS to give us some temp relief because there are lot of people and families suffering coz of this.

    Please stop predicting Visa number everyone and deal with reality and stand up and speak about ou issue.

    Tell me what don`t you guys think ??

    thx.





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  • delhiguy
    07-09 02:22 PM
    http://www.ahslaw.com/documents/AHSLawsuit.pdf


    This document gives lot of legal details, states what the lawsuits exactly is..


    P.S : I Think its just filed, not accepted by the court as of now





    arnab221
    04-23 01:38 AM
    Lot of you guys have mentioned that there were a set of people( Latino immigrant community) there who were not happy with some of the terms in the STRIVE ACT. Could one of you tell us what those terms were ? Since legal immigration reform are hostage to Comprehensive immigration bills at this stage, I am just pondering if those terms become a hindarance in STRIVE getting cleared and consequently section V not getting passed .


    Also Ramaonline says that Congressman Guiterrezz told him that he is assured of a support of 180 House democrats and needs 218 Votes to pass the bill. So that leaves us with 38 votes that are needed. From what we see and hear in the news media, there are just a handful of House Republicans now who do not support this Bill . The consensus from the news media is that many of the Republicans who opposed CIR last year have not got re-elected . So if this is the case then 38 Republicans should not be a real problem to find . Any factual opinions ?





    atleasth1b
    08-22 05:13 PM
    I am in a very Bad situation it seems, please help.

    I am working in US on L1B visa and Wife on L2. then Wife got a Job and her employer filled her 485.

    In the mean time I applied for H1 (through a consultant, to get out of the L1B company). Looks like the H1 Got Approved. Now, I think the problem is, If I switch to H1, then she will loose her job and our chance of Getting EAD will go.

    I do NOT want to go for H1, but EAD Is important to me. Is there a Way I can keep my L1? (so that my wife can keep her job)

    Please help



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  • mariner5555
    03-04 05:27 AM
    Instead of criticizing the idea, please submit your votes!
    Only 300 odd people sent flowers to the USCIS and we know it worked. This site has a lot of one time visitors so don't expect 25000 votes, but it does not mean this idea is crappy. Heck, I want to buy a house myself, but I cannot even think about borrowing 300k+ when I may be asked to leave the country on a day's notice (remember no time between jobs when you are on H1B).
    I agree with the above !! an idea is like a spark ..once one media picks this up others will follow and you never know what it leads to. opposing an idea is Worse than doing nothing. BTW the way things are going ...GC may soon lose its grand appeal (it will still be in huge demand though ). the following article is a must read - if you have few minutes to spare --written by prominent economist. maybe a worst case scenario --but as scary as a horror movie
    http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/tragedy-recession-its-bad-ending/story.aspx?guid=%7B5D72D7E3%2D76BB%2D4CAB%2DB4D0%2 D60F87DA734B7%7D&dist=MostReadHome





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  • pointlesswait
    07-28 05:02 PM
    DELETED!


    I agree that we need some stress release discussion but i disagree that this the topic which we need to discuss on..open up any other thread which will give a healthy discussing like to discuss about the current market trend in US or open up a thread which will helpful to understand the recent N-deal of India-USA saying that how much india will get benifit with that and how?





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  • thesparky007
    02-16 08:55 PM
    so!!!!!!!
    none of them is free???





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  • GCBy3000
    07-13 07:37 PM
    I dont see any problem if we align with like minded orgs. If we allow today Murthy to take credit, then we are mis-directing our fellow immigrants who would be comng down the years here. They all believe Murthy is for immigrants and fall in their trap.

    So let us all be clear in selecting our friends or foe keeping our goals and vision for future immigrants. I am OK if we dont get anything, but I dont want to lose anything.

    All,

    Discrediting attorney Murthy does not serve our purpose.
    If she is doing something good, that is generating more pressure on USCIS, then let's stop criticizing her.
    Though she is taking the step a few days late, it is a step in right direction and lets support and thank her...

    Everyone has their motives...What matters is the end product...



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  • singhsa3
    03-03 01:16 PM
    I just sent a request to CNN to take a look at this thread. A formal letter may be sent soon. So please continue to vote and participate.





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  • CantLeaveAmerica
    03-17 09:36 PM
    For people who want to file I-485 filing on their own. Since 485 filing requires only one document from the employer (Employer's letter saying you have the job and its the same job description), its possible to file 485 by oneself without additional help from lawyer or employer. This is a thread for that purpose. Even those who have the help and attention of a good lawyer can use this thread for guidance. This is the initial list of documents that are required for 485 filing and the optional EAD and AP filing. The fee structure is scheduled to change after July 30th. The fees listed below are applicable now thru July 29th.

    I-485 DOCUMENT CHECKLIST

    1. Payment Checks (USCIS Filing Fees $325.00 in favor of 'United States Citizenship and Immigration Service' OR 'USCIS').

    Original fee plus $70.00 biometrics services fee if you are 14 years of age or older. If you are under 14 years of age, the fee is $225.00 with no biometric services fee. If you are 79 years of age or older, the fee is $325.00 with no biometrics services fee.

    Fillable I-485 form:
    http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-485.pdf


    Application is sent to:

    USCIS Nebraska Service Center

    P.O. Box 87485

    Lincoln, NE 68501-7485

    2. Form G-28 one with each Application form. Dont need this if you are doing it on your own without the lawyer. If doing on your own, you can fill out G-28 for your spouse, if you are filling out the forms and doing paperwork for your spouse. G-28 shows that the applicant is being represented etc. If you and your spouse are both filling out your own forms and signing them then you may not need G-28 for anything.

    3. Two Photographs per 1-485,1-131,1-765

    4. Completed form 1-485 for Adjustment of Status

    5. Completed Period of Stay form. Completed in chronological order starting with first entry into US, and all changes of status, extensions, exits and entries, down to your current status.

    6. Evidence of Valid Nonimmigrant Status:

    Copies of both sides of any and all 1-94 cards
    Copies of all 1-797 approval notices
    Copies of any and all I-20's (if applicable, both sides)
    Copies of all IAP 66 forms
    Copies of all PT Work Authorization Cards (if applicable)
    Copies of All pages of passport - INCLUDING BLANK PAGES AND PLEASE DO NOT MAKE TWO SIDED COPIES; ONE COPY PER PAGE AND MAKE SURE THAT COPIES ARE LEGIBLE

    COMPLETED FORM G-325A Biographic Sheet

    I-693 form( Every civil surgeon mostly has this form)

    Completed Form 1-693 Medical Examination (SEALED) along with copy of list of INS approved Civil Surgeons
    Birth Certificates and Marriage Certificate COPIES and other evidence of birth/marriage. One marriage certificate needed per person
    Employment Letter in Format
    Original for employee, copy for all other

    I-765/EAD DOCUMENT CHECKLIST (Optional)

    Documents required for EAD/I-765 per person:
    Completed Form I-765 (EAD):
    http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/I-765.pdf
    2 photos(full frontal)
    USCIS filing fee - $180.00 check payable to 'United States Citizenship and Immigration Service' OR 'USCIS' with your SSN# and I-765 mentioned in the comments section of the check
    Copy of past EAD card front/back sides
    Copy of recent I-94 card (both sides)
    Copy of visa page of passport in color
    Copy of driver's license
    Copy of I-485 receipt notice (if applicable)
    Copy of I-140 approval notice
    Copy of Marriage certificate (if applying for spouse)


    I-131/Advance Parole DOCUMENT CHECKLIST (Optional)

    Documents required for Advance parole/ I-131 per person:
    Completed form I-131
    http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/I-131.pdf
    2 photos (full frontal)
    USCIS filing fee - $170.00 check payable to 'United States Citizenship and Immigration Service' OR 'USCIS' with your SSN# and I-131 mentioned in the comments section of the check
    copy of EAD card front/back sides,
    Copy of I-94 card,
    Copy of visa page of passport in color,
    Copy of driver's license,
    Copy of I-485 receipt notice,
    Copy of I-140 approval notice,
    Copy of Marriage certificate,
    Copy of birth certificate for children and a letter explaining the reason for travel
    Signed statement requesting advance parole

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  • makemygc
    06-10 06:40 PM
    My wife is working with a company "A" in India and have filed for H1 through a company "B" in USA.
    Currently she does not have any VISA.


    Can her current company "A" apply for L1 and she can come to USA on L1?
    And suppose she can come to US on L1 through company "A", What happens if her H1 gets approved through Company "B", Can she still continue
    working for Comapny "A".?


    Thanks in Advance.
    -Moti
    As far as I know L1 has no affect on the H1 filing. She can come US on L1 and if her H1 gets approved, she can continue to work on L1 with company A. To tranfer to H1, she has to go out of US and then re-enter after getting H1 visa stamped. This is based on my understanding and few of my friends who have done that. They were in US on L1 but filed their H1 through another company.





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  • abc
    11-20 11:40 AM
    5+ yrs, no promotion, pennies as salary hike(once reduced in 2001).

    I have decided to break this GC CHAKRAVYUHU.



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  • PHANI_TAVVALA
    05-15 03:59 PM
    Dont take current year as a standard (unless you believe that things will get only worse from here). About your ROI description, it is very generic. Each person has to take his or her personal circumstances into consideration before making this calculation. Another problem with this ROI calculation being applied to engineers (I am one too) is that our initial salaries tend to be high but we tend to hit a ceiling around the time we hit 30 (what next after project manager or product manager?).

    One more important thing to think about is what do you want to do in life. If MBA can get you there, there is probably not much meaning to this ROI calculation as you cannot put a price on ability to do what you wanted to (and be happy). This is precisely why I said find out why do you want an MBA in the prior post. That is the most important part of this discovery process. I understand that lives change and people change, which is why it is important to talk to people who have "been there and done that".

    I agree this is a bad year but this was an article from 2006. I also completely agree that people need to pursue M.B.A with the aim of improving their skills or with the aim of improving their marketability or future career growth but then once you pay the big bucks it alwyas filters down to ROI. But spending 2 years of one's life at a full-time school shelling out 100's of thousands of dollars (especially if it is out of their own pocket) will make sense only if one can justify the investment in terms of dollars. People expect sunk costs to be recovered in the future. Investment banking and finance offered that opportunity to M.B.A professionals where they could draw anywhere between $300k-450k in base salary alone apart from millions of dollars in bonuses. Going into the future, the current socialistic government will keep tabs on such exuberant pays.

    I weighed all these when deciding to start part-time. I always wanted to be a Mechanical Engineer and I want to be associated with my field for rest of my life. My intent of pursuing M.B.A is to move up the ladder quickly in Engineering/Technology Management.





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  • anurakt
    12-27 10:55 AM
    it would be useful to all if people who have traveled could let us know their experience transiting through different airports, also we should compile a detailed list of the airports that have some transit visa requirements.

    Austria
    Airport transit implies staying within the airport for not more than 24 hours, without crossing the immigration. This applies to those passengers also who may be required to stay in the aircraft during the transit time.

    US Passport Holders: Not required
    Indian Passport Holders: Not Required

    For more information on VISA / transit VISA requirements, please visit the official website of Austrian consulate/embassy.
    http://www.aussenministerium.at/view.php3?f_id=5308&LNG=en&version=text

    Address / Contact numbers in USA
    Austrian Consulate General
    31 East 69th Street
    New York, NY 10021
    Tel: +1 (212) 737 6400
    Fax:+1 (212) 585 1992
    E-mail: info@austria-ny.org
    Public hours: Mo - Fr 9:00 am - 12:00 noon

    Kuwait

    US Passport Holders: Not required
    Indian Passport Holders: Not required
    For more information on VISA / transit VISA requirements, please contact the Kuwait Consulate/Embassy near you.

    Address / Contact numbers in USA
    Kuwait Information Office
    2600 Virginia Ave, NW, Suite 404
    Washington, D.C. 20037
    Phone: 202-338-0211
    Fax: 202-338-0957
    Email:questions@kuwait-info.org


    Netherlands

    US Passport Holders: Not required
    Indian Passport Holders: Not required

    Address / Contact numbers in US
    There are 58 offices across spread across different states in USA. To check the address, contact numbers, email address, working hours, etc., please click the below given URL. http://www.netherlands-embassy.org/location.asp

    UK

    US Passport Holders: Not required
    Indian Passport Holders: Required*

    *Exemptions

    YOU ARE EXEMPT IF::

    You are travelling FROM the US with a valid US visa and a valid airline ticket for travel via the United Kingdom to another country; or
    You are travelling TO the US from another country and hold a valid airline ticket for travel via the United Kingdom and a valid US visa; or
    You last entered the US with a valid US visa which has now expired but you hold a valid airline ticket for travel via the United Kingdom to another country and you are intending to transit the United Kingdom within 6 months of your last date of entry to the US; or
    You have a valid US I - 551 Permanent Residence Card (Green Card) issued on or after 21 April 1998 (but see Note 1 and 2 below); or
    You have a valid US Immigrant Visa packet (form 155A / 155B); or
    You have an expired I - 551 Permanent Residence Card (issued on or after 21 April 1998) and a valid I-797 letter issued by the Bureau of Citizenship authorising its extension (but see Note 1 and 2 below); or
    You have a valid Canadian Permanent Residence Card issued on or after 28 June 2002; or
    You have a valid common format Category D visa issued by EU/EEA member states; or
    You have a valid common format EU residence permit issued under Council Regulation (EC) No 1030/2002;
    You hold a diplomatic or a service passport issued by the People's Republic of China; or
    You hold a diplomatic or an official passport issued by the government of India; or
    You hold a diplomatic or an official passport issued by the government of Vietnam.

    Note :
    Holding an I-512 Parole letter or an I-797C (Notice of Action) instead of a valid US visa; or a Transportation Letter instead of a valid US Permanent Resident Card issued on or after 21 April 1998 does NOT qualify you for exemption from the DAT visa requirement.
    Holding a valid travel document with an ADIT stamp - worded "PROCESSED FOR I-551. TEMPORARY EVIDENCE OF LAWFUL ADMISSION FOR PERMANENT RESIDENCE VALID UNTIL ......EMPLOYMENT AUTHORIZED" - does NOT qualify you for exemption from the DAT visa requirement.
    Whether holders of non-national (including refugee travel documents) require a DATV depends on their nationality and whether they qualify for one of the exemptions listed above. So, for instance, the holder of a non-national travel document (eg. a refugee travel document) who is a national or a citizen of one of the countries listed on the DATV list (eg. Afghanistan) will require a direct airside transit visa if they are travelling to the UK to transit onto a third country.


    There are separate exemptions for holders of Australian, Canadian and New Zealand visas. Please click here for details.

    For more information on VISA / transit VISA requirements, please visit the official website of UK consulate/embassy.

    http://www.britainusa.com/visas/other_show.asp?SarticleType=25&Other_ID=313

    This information has been prepared with utmost care; we cannot accept any responsibility for inaccuracies contained herein.

    Address / Contact numbers in USA
    There are many offices spread across different states in USA. To check the address, contact numbers, email address, working hours, etc., please click the below given URL.
    http://www.britainusa.com/consular/locate.asp

    Switzerland

    US Passport Holders: Not required
    Indian Passport Holders: Not required

    For more information on VISA / transit VISA requirements, please visit the official website of Swiss consulate/embassy.

    www.eda.admin.ch/washington_emb/e/home/consular/visas/needvisa.html

    Address / Contact numbers in USA
    There are many offices spread across different states in USA. To check the address, contact numbers, email address, working hours, etc., please click the below given URL.
    http://www.eda.admin.ch/washington_emb/e/home/ovriew/email.p.html




    * It is the responsibility of all travelers to obtain any required visas and travel permissions. I recommend all travelers check with the airline they are flying regarding applicable Transit and Visa Rules for the country they are transiting through. Immigrationvoice or myslef will NOT be responsible for any traveler being denied boarding on account of incorrect documentation.



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  • retrohatao
    02-16 10:11 AM
    willgetgc2005,
    I aggree totally. This forum somehow started with a lukewarm response to the issue. Two things come to my mind.
    1. The folks are not aware of the issue (or)
    2. Most of the folks are just at the first stage of the process and think that retrogression is the only bottleneck.

    Please add this as the one of the hot issues to help one and all.





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  • bigboy007
    06-30 06:54 AM
    Good question are u talking about G325A i dont know whether this is the right way but what i did is filled up another form with rest of details in table col as you might need to do this 4 times as they need four copies of same form , dont copy it though as bottom left no.s differ , may be others can suggest a better approach?



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  • go_guy123
    06-08 06:58 PM
    Same old stuff. I dont see a light at the end of the tunnel till some immigration reform bill gets shoved in or a comprehensive immigration bill is introduced.

    The obama administration is not in a mood to touch immigration and we live to be scape goats of policies back from 90's.

    Immigration is the third rail of American Politics. Nobody wants to touch that.
    Obama and his party wont risk election 2010





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  • desi3933
    02-11 03:52 PM
    Finally, per Ron unused is not same as wasted. Unused is unassigned. Wasted is .... assigned but action is not taken to close the case. If that is the case then wasted visas won't be available ....

    So, according to you, what happens when no action is taken for assigned visa number?

    What matters is number of visas used. Have you looked at the numbers?



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  • EB2_Jun03_dude
    04-25 10:08 AM
    "Application Type: I485 , APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS

    Current Status: Card production ordered.

    On April 25, 2008, we ordered production of your new card. Please allow 30 days for your card to be mailed to you." :) :)

    I had a soft LUD on 4/22 and now this :) :).

    Btw: I did not get any email for my wife's case(derivative application) which is pending at the Newark, NJ office(interview done in Feb 08') !





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  • PresidentO
    03-10 01:31 PM
    I have been lurking on this forum to understand the plight of EB immigrants and the posts the last few weeks have confirmed my belief that the problem exist because a lot of people came to the US from 1999-2006 and want to stay here permanently. The EB immigration system was fine before then; thus, the problem is supply/demand, not the immigration policies.

    Let me guess. You are brother/sister of Ron Hira who is in bed with programmers guild and who wants to shut the golden door as soon as he is done. Ron and ilk would never say that they/their parent's stole an American job. They are all genuine and we are all fraud. If you can stay permanently, We can too. Cut the crap! Kid

    You showed your two big foot in your mouth by saying that immigration policy has nothing to do with this and this is purely supply/demand. Whom are you trying to kid? Supply and demand changed because the immigration policy changed. H1B visas were increased from 65K to 195K, without a increase in the GC numbers. Folks on the hill made businesses happy by increasing the H1B numbers and did not care a rat's ass about how the increase will choke the GC system. The effect is compounded with 245i and USCIS inefficiency. But the root cause is policy that did not encompass all aspects of Employment based immigration.

    You moron! People just did not come here night over night flying on their wings. It is the policy stupid that created the supply/demand problem. You don't need to lurk and then lash out by taking a conversation out of context. The guy who quoted the 2A was just quoting the retrogression times in EB and FB and was pointing out the absurdity. Of all the people, you thought EB folks dont care about family and unification issues. Yeah right! What else you gotta spit?



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  • nat23
    06-13 08:41 AM
    Interesting Article on the revival of the CIR

    http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politics/bulletin/bulletin_070613.htm





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  • Sunx_2004
    03-12 10:21 AM
    I do not believe that one person (Pappu) should be held responsible for whatever going on You should not blame Pappu alone.
    However, I agree that donor forum proved to be disastrous and driving people away from IV. Someone in core team should do analysis on how much it helped the IV cause and whether it should exist going forward. Lack of transparency is clearly hurting IV cause.


    IV needs to OPEN ITS BOOKS

    And show DONORS where their money is going? Where is the sponsors money going? and what is this ORGANIZATION planning to do. IF not, one these days they will find themselves in a audit and public scrutiny.

    Any yes people who says open your eyes? Have you got your GC? EAD is only a means and not the destination


    PAPU, you need to explain to all IV members and disclose the books and what you are doing as IV head, and dont give me the bull, of we are working, you want our support, we want clarity and real action.





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  • GCOP
    07-11 02:07 PM
    How many applications are pending for EB-3 (I). ?
    Currently the tunnel is closed at the end for EB-3 :mad: and the only way out I see is for us EB-3 folks to dig through. No one cares about EB-3 I folks. That's the way I see it.





    EB2_Jun03_dude
    04-25 10:08 AM
    "Application Type: I485 , APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS

    Current Status: Card production ordered.

    On April 25, 2008, we ordered production of your new card. Please allow 30 days for your card to be mailed to you." :) :)

    I had a soft LUD on 4/22 and now this :) :).

    Btw: I did not get any email for my wife's case(derivative application) which is pending at the Newark, NJ office(interview done in Feb 08') !





    santosh08872
    03-17 04:29 PM
    Mine is EB3, 17th June 2002