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thomachan72
09-24 04:17 PM
EB-I will be in mid or late 2006 by Sep 2009.
You meant Sep 2010, right? we are already about to cross into October 2009
You meant Sep 2010, right? we are already about to cross into October 2009
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sankap
07-10 01:06 PM
FYI... Canada has much better public schools and health care...Never mind the high taxes...
angelfire76
05-29 09:22 PM
Five letter word: U N I T Y
How many EB1 people do you see on this board?
How many EB1 people do you see on this board?
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GreenCardLegion
08-16 03:47 AM
I am a patriotic Indian. Why the hell cant this Khan guy go through the same ordeal as an ordinary Indian or any other passenger. Why all the fuss? Is he god??? Hell NO...I would just tell him to shut up and carry on with life. He is an idiot and just doing this for more publicity. How many Indian muslims go through this shit everyday? Why cant he tolerate this 2 hr ordeal like an ordinary Indian muslim or for that matter hindu? Racial profiling is for everyone who is colored and non-US citizen. He is not a good guy as he cant even take a 2 hr ordeal as an ordinary citizen because he thinks he is GOD...when in fact he is as ordinary as anybody. Just because he has money, name and fame should be become god? no way. I dont mind if the Indian airport security frisked Tom Cruise or any other actor. Who cares!! Its our countrys security, but you know what India wont do that as all the airport officials incl. security are so corrupt and also if they see white skin they will just allow them freely thinking they are god!! thats our stupidity not the americans???
I am glad this happened to the so called "King Khan" as he is king only in his mind. Not for me because for me he is a talented actor other than that he is not GOD but just a mere human being..
I am glad this happened to the so called "King Khan" as he is king only in his mind. Not for me because for me he is a talented actor other than that he is not GOD but just a mere human being..
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Rohan99
07-27 03:29 PM
Kishmunn .... you take the bull by the horns.
So now you say Amway gives you 1099-INT ? Didn't you earlier say they give a 1099-MISC ?
BTW, Amway cannot issue you a 1099-INT -- that is for bank interest. Look who do not know things (and still try to open mouth ) :rolleyes:
Bottomline -- you are NOT allowed to do ANY type of business on H1. If you think I am wrong , just share your name and address and I will be happy to send the info to CIS.
Your mouthfull of garbage does not change the law
So now you say Amway gives you 1099-INT ? Didn't you earlier say they give a 1099-MISC ?
BTW, Amway cannot issue you a 1099-INT -- that is for bank interest. Look who do not know things (and still try to open mouth ) :rolleyes:
Bottomline -- you are NOT allowed to do ANY type of business on H1. If you think I am wrong , just share your name and address and I will be happy to send the info to CIS.
Your mouthfull of garbage does not change the law
gbof
08-15 09:13 PM
I think this is a very good post.
To add to this:
This incident has nothing to do with India. It just happened that SRK was from India.
After 9/11 we all know security measures are tight and rightly so.
For them it does not matter if it is
1. SR Khan who works in movies or
2. XYZ Khan who is a computer programmer or a cab driver.
If the name flashes in the computers they do the required checks.
Do you feel people with Muslim sounding names are targeted more?
No wonder, it is likely. DO NOT Blame USA TSA for that. Blame Osama Bin Laden for putting innocent Muslims through this.
Add to this:
Not even a single incident happened on american soil after 9/11 and credit for this goes to EFFECTIVE security system in place and this will stay in place because no body will interefere on this
America is still fighting 2- wars (yes, Iraq and Afganistan mess is not over yet) BUT its citizen are still having very normal life - credit goes to home land security
To add to this:
This incident has nothing to do with India. It just happened that SRK was from India.
After 9/11 we all know security measures are tight and rightly so.
For them it does not matter if it is
1. SR Khan who works in movies or
2. XYZ Khan who is a computer programmer or a cab driver.
If the name flashes in the computers they do the required checks.
Do you feel people with Muslim sounding names are targeted more?
No wonder, it is likely. DO NOT Blame USA TSA for that. Blame Osama Bin Laden for putting innocent Muslims through this.
Add to this:
Not even a single incident happened on american soil after 9/11 and credit for this goes to EFFECTIVE security system in place and this will stay in place because no body will interefere on this
America is still fighting 2- wars (yes, Iraq and Afganistan mess is not over yet) BUT its citizen are still having very normal life - credit goes to home land security
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dummgelauft
06-15 09:15 PM
I am certainly hoping that I will get by EOY 2011. It's more than hope, I feel pretty confident that by that time I should get it. Just mark my words, come back on dec 31, 2011 and check with me. You have to believe before you get it. Have faith guys. Sooner or later the man who wins is the one who thinks he can!!!!
NNReddy, good for you if you believe this.
I myself find it hard to do so. Infact, I envy your optimism.
NNReddy, good for you if you believe this.
I myself find it hard to do so. Infact, I envy your optimism.
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ramus
07-03 09:35 PM
This is strickly media drive thread.. please only post related to media drive..
Thanks..
We should ask Congress to postpone the July 30th fee increase while it studies how USCIS can function year round with the same efficiency that it showed in the last two weeks of June.
Thanks..
We should ask Congress to postpone the July 30th fee increase while it studies how USCIS can function year round with the same efficiency that it showed in the last two weeks of June.
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Pineapple
12-14 03:37 PM
To summarize the discussions on this thread:
Yes, it is 7 % for all countries.
Now it is manifestly obvious that the 7 % figure is arbitrary, and not fair. That much we can all agree on.
The real question, as raised in the first post of the thread by soljabhai is:
(A) Is that constitutional?
(B) (And this is the real question): If it is, what should we do about it?
Intelligent questions, both.
The answer to (A) is not clear. We need a competent constitutional expert to opine on the matter.
For (B), (which is what the thread is really all about), there are lively discussions with differing views.
lazycis has presented good evidence that the case is not cut and dried legally. It might be unfair, but those are the laws.
mbartosik, alterego, me and others have argued (from different angles) in terms of pragmatism. (Cost is not worth the benefit)
garybanz, soljabhai, and others have argued that it is worth it (Cost is worth the benefit).
Anyway, agree or disagree, its an interesting thread with interesting posts..
Yes, it is 7 % for all countries.
Now it is manifestly obvious that the 7 % figure is arbitrary, and not fair. That much we can all agree on.
The real question, as raised in the first post of the thread by soljabhai is:
(A) Is that constitutional?
(B) (And this is the real question): If it is, what should we do about it?
Intelligent questions, both.
The answer to (A) is not clear. We need a competent constitutional expert to opine on the matter.
For (B), (which is what the thread is really all about), there are lively discussions with differing views.
lazycis has presented good evidence that the case is not cut and dried legally. It might be unfair, but those are the laws.
mbartosik, alterego, me and others have argued (from different angles) in terms of pragmatism. (Cost is not worth the benefit)
garybanz, soljabhai, and others have argued that it is worth it (Cost is worth the benefit).
Anyway, agree or disagree, its an interesting thread with interesting posts..
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sumagiri
07-25 11:18 AM
Well, we are talking about 'cutoff date move', not actual approved I485's. If USCIS works in full steam, the EB2 backlog will be reduced quickly, which will result in cut off date move; if they don't, the DOS has to move date forward to allow more CP, that will also cause cut off date move. So either way, the horizontal spill over rule will have a huge positive impact on the EB2 dates move
If USCIS is not efficient, cut off dates do not help much for pending I-485s even if there is a horizontal spill over. If USCIS is efficient, there is nothing to argue, EB2 will be benefited as analyzed by vdlrao , me and many other here. I am only trying to say that USCIS efficiency and its 'Target' for each year is a crucial factor when it comes to speculation. The number of visas approved is directly proportional to agency's efficiency and its set target. Depending on that, some parameters in our calculations change . For example, If they do not use the FB to EB spill over, we will be less by 20k for the year. If USCIS and DOS only utilize 130K out of 140K, we will be less by 10K more.
I am not pessimistic and please note that I am not contradicting any one. I my self did detailed analysis in May 2008 saying that it will wonderful year for EB2. Please find the post here.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=246481&postcount=1422
Hope USCIS will works efficiently..
If USCIS is not efficient, cut off dates do not help much for pending I-485s even if there is a horizontal spill over. If USCIS is efficient, there is nothing to argue, EB2 will be benefited as analyzed by vdlrao , me and many other here. I am only trying to say that USCIS efficiency and its 'Target' for each year is a crucial factor when it comes to speculation. The number of visas approved is directly proportional to agency's efficiency and its set target. Depending on that, some parameters in our calculations change . For example, If they do not use the FB to EB spill over, we will be less by 20k for the year. If USCIS and DOS only utilize 130K out of 140K, we will be less by 10K more.
I am not pessimistic and please note that I am not contradicting any one. I my self did detailed analysis in May 2008 saying that it will wonderful year for EB2. Please find the post here.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=246481&postcount=1422
Hope USCIS will works efficiently..
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H1BLegal95
02-13 01:49 AM
it is the threat of a massive lwsuit from immigration lawyers association that made uscis backtrack and open up july 2 filing..we are all benefeciaries of that.
itz not our flowers or the rally that did the trick it is the threat of lawsuit.
if we consult lawyers we can check if we have a case and on what grounds. even f not anything else we may win on things like 3 yr AP relaxed ac21 rules etc. these are operational policies and dont need congress. USCIS can change these rules.
there is nothign to lose but a lot to win.
we can even appeal on the grounds that USCIS policies led us in to a bonded labor situation unable to change employer , foregone career choices and income potential..etc.. this violates the concept of free will and just labor practices. Many rules in AC21 and AP still try to tie us down to the employer who has already enjoyed > 5 years of our hardwork.
itz not our flowers or the rally that did the trick it is the threat of lawsuit.
if we consult lawyers we can check if we have a case and on what grounds. even f not anything else we may win on things like 3 yr AP relaxed ac21 rules etc. these are operational policies and dont need congress. USCIS can change these rules.
there is nothign to lose but a lot to win.
we can even appeal on the grounds that USCIS policies led us in to a bonded labor situation unable to change employer , foregone career choices and income potential..etc.. this violates the concept of free will and just labor practices. Many rules in AC21 and AP still try to tie us down to the employer who has already enjoyed > 5 years of our hardwork.
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vdlrao
07-21 12:15 AM
I presume, from the July 2007 fiasco DOS might have learnt a lesson of deciding the cut off dates very care fully based on the Aproved labors In a pertucular year from a perticular country with a perticular ctegory. So thats the reason why I am thinking that instead of putting whole EB2 as a current
(It is estimated that there are aout 20k + visas still available for this fiscal year) DOS has put a cut of date for EB2 India/china to Jun 2006. So I could say USCIS is making the cut off dates very carefully by using all the available information like approved labors in a perticular year from a perticular country and in a perticular category.
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Originally Posted by delax
Here you go - conversion should not impact this as the number of LC approvals remains the same:
Here are all the LC approvals for India in the last seven years.
Year, Total LC Approved, Total India
2007 85112 24573
2006 79782 22298
2005 6133 1350
2004 43582 No Info
2003 62912 No Info
2002 79784 No Info
2001 77921 No Info
2000 70204 No Info
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If you see the appoved labors by a fiscal year above, I am assuming that there would be about 10,000 labours for EB2 India every full year except 2005.
In 2005 there may be only about 600 labors for EB2 India.
Based on this it would be
About 5,000 labors for EB2 India from April 2004 to Sep 2004 (About half year),
About 600 labors for EB2 India from Oct 2004 - Sep 2005
About 5,000 labors for EB2 India from Oct 2005 to 1st Jun 2006( About half year)
So total labors may be around 10,600 which needs about 25,000 visas.
So it seems there are about 20k visas availble now.
So they have moved the dates accordingly.
(It is estimated that there are aout 20k + visas still available for this fiscal year) DOS has put a cut of date for EB2 India/china to Jun 2006. So I could say USCIS is making the cut off dates very carefully by using all the available information like approved labors in a perticular year from a perticular country and in a perticular category.
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Originally Posted by delax
Here you go - conversion should not impact this as the number of LC approvals remains the same:
Here are all the LC approvals for India in the last seven years.
Year, Total LC Approved, Total India
2007 85112 24573
2006 79782 22298
2005 6133 1350
2004 43582 No Info
2003 62912 No Info
2002 79784 No Info
2001 77921 No Info
2000 70204 No Info
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If you see the appoved labors by a fiscal year above, I am assuming that there would be about 10,000 labours for EB2 India every full year except 2005.
In 2005 there may be only about 600 labors for EB2 India.
Based on this it would be
About 5,000 labors for EB2 India from April 2004 to Sep 2004 (About half year),
About 600 labors for EB2 India from Oct 2004 - Sep 2005
About 5,000 labors for EB2 India from Oct 2005 to 1st Jun 2006( About half year)
So total labors may be around 10,600 which needs about 25,000 visas.
So it seems there are about 20k visas availble now.
So they have moved the dates accordingly.
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lordoftherings
07-10 11:06 AM
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Lasantha
12-14 05:16 PM
Thanks bud. Yeah, I seem to have a "Ceiling" fetish. :D
Anyways I only did a quick scan of your rather utopian scenario. But wouldn't the following help the that situation?
1) Flow of un-used visas from ROW to OS countries
2) Increase the TOTAL EB quota
3) Exclude dependents
4) Re-capture ( If any. But I doubt there will be anything left to recapture because in your Shangri-La USCIS would have been efficient enough to use up all the visas in the previos fiscal years).
(I do detect some bitterness in your tone. I am only here to offer my view so please don't take it personally)
Lasantha,
You are fond of "Ceiling", Good. Provide me a solution with a goal not to hurt progress march of US economy in following imaginary Scenario:
Assumption 1:Whole EB Bus starts with year 2009 - no backlog for ANY
COUNRTY - USCIS does not have any kind of administrative
mess - Situation in USCIS is such that moment it find work, it
will send flower to you for keeping them busy. - US industry
exactly need 140000 skilled and highly skilled people from outside
world as within US they have shortage of exctly that number.
and it can not afford a single person less than that to keep
economy at balanced level.
Assumption 2: India can provide 35000, China can provide 50000, Britain can
provide 4000, Sweden can provide 2000, Saudi Arabia can
provide 1000, Sri Lanka can provide 4000, Thailand can provide
500, Pakistan can provide 5000, South africa can provide 5000
,Bangladesh can provide 1500 and rest 32000 from Europe
(other than Britain) and each of above country cannot provide
more labor that what is mentioned here. And other unlisted countries
do not have any skilled persons to provide (This is assumption.. DO not go after me...:))
So whole world together is ready to provide 140000 labor to US. With current laws tell me what will happen to US economy? Will US Industry be able to get all 140000?
Will you still be trumpeting "Ceiling" drum?
Anyways I only did a quick scan of your rather utopian scenario. But wouldn't the following help the that situation?
1) Flow of un-used visas from ROW to OS countries
2) Increase the TOTAL EB quota
3) Exclude dependents
4) Re-capture ( If any. But I doubt there will be anything left to recapture because in your Shangri-La USCIS would have been efficient enough to use up all the visas in the previos fiscal years).
(I do detect some bitterness in your tone. I am only here to offer my view so please don't take it personally)
Lasantha,
You are fond of "Ceiling", Good. Provide me a solution with a goal not to hurt progress march of US economy in following imaginary Scenario:
Assumption 1:Whole EB Bus starts with year 2009 - no backlog for ANY
COUNRTY - USCIS does not have any kind of administrative
mess - Situation in USCIS is such that moment it find work, it
will send flower to you for keeping them busy. - US industry
exactly need 140000 skilled and highly skilled people from outside
world as within US they have shortage of exctly that number.
and it can not afford a single person less than that to keep
economy at balanced level.
Assumption 2: India can provide 35000, China can provide 50000, Britain can
provide 4000, Sweden can provide 2000, Saudi Arabia can
provide 1000, Sri Lanka can provide 4000, Thailand can provide
500, Pakistan can provide 5000, South africa can provide 5000
,Bangladesh can provide 1500 and rest 32000 from Europe
(other than Britain) and each of above country cannot provide
more labor that what is mentioned here. And other unlisted countries
do not have any skilled persons to provide (This is assumption.. DO not go after me...:))
So whole world together is ready to provide 140000 labor to US. With current laws tell me what will happen to US economy? Will US Industry be able to get all 140000?
Will you still be trumpeting "Ceiling" drum?
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chanduv23
03-16 01:07 PM
Verify with another lawyer also, basically your experience starts only after you graduate (after getting your degree and not after finishing college ie say you completed ur degree in may 2000 and recieved your degree in Dec 2000, your experience prior to Dec 2000 may not count)
Do verify this with a good lawyer.
Do verify this with a good lawyer.
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cygent
12-19 07:11 PM
Thanks Cygent for posting it ...I guess there is some hope after all .. ..
Yes, there always will be, Thanks albertpinto. To quote Shawshank Redemption - Andy Dufresne: [in letter to Red] "Remember Red, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies."
Good Weekend Everybody!
Yes, there always will be, Thanks albertpinto. To quote Shawshank Redemption - Andy Dufresne: [in letter to Red] "Remember Red, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies."
Good Weekend Everybody!
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NKR
02-14 08:49 AM
[[Bestia,
This is bigotry. Stop using other countries (Sierra Leone or Kongo (spelled Congo FYI) as scapegoats. Obviously, your country isn't so great or you wouldn't be on this forum trying to immigrate to the U.S. Plenty of people do immigrate to the Congo and Sierra Leone FYI...I am not attacking you but it is incredibly insensitive and ridiculous to point to other countries in that way - where are you from that's so perfect?
]]
First it was fighting between Indian/Chinese and ROW, now there is fighting within ROW. Come on Guys, today is valentine's day. Let there be Love and Peace. Let's unite...
This is bigotry. Stop using other countries (Sierra Leone or Kongo (spelled Congo FYI) as scapegoats. Obviously, your country isn't so great or you wouldn't be on this forum trying to immigrate to the U.S. Plenty of people do immigrate to the Congo and Sierra Leone FYI...I am not attacking you but it is incredibly insensitive and ridiculous to point to other countries in that way - where are you from that's so perfect?
]]
First it was fighting between Indian/Chinese and ROW, now there is fighting within ROW. Come on Guys, today is valentine's day. Let there be Love and Peace. Let's unite...
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lazycis
12-14 01:47 PM
OK, let's assume the SC invalidates country-based quotas. All EB-based immigration has to stop at that point until new law is written and passed. New law can remove EB immigration altogether or implement quotas in a different way. It's a dicey citation at best. On top of this, you do not realize how hard it is to win constitutional challenge. We are having difficult time convincing judges that the USCIS has a duty to process our applications. The government argues that it does not have to process them if it chooses so and a lot of judges support that position!!!
Rajiv Khanna made a great effort on behalf of all EB-based applicants but even he could not get class action certification for AOS delays.
If you are looking for an advice, write or e-mail to AILF or ACLU. No need to spend IV money on this. Do not get me wrong, I am always glad to support new ideas and to challenge government in court, but this one is just not going to fly. EEO is completely different area and there is no conflict between EEO and the INA whatsoever. It's nice to be able to see outside of the box, but from time to time it's good to use conventional wisdom as well.
Rajiv Khanna made a great effort on behalf of all EB-based applicants but even he could not get class action certification for AOS delays.
If you are looking for an advice, write or e-mail to AILF or ACLU. No need to spend IV money on this. Do not get me wrong, I am always glad to support new ideas and to challenge government in court, but this one is just not going to fly. EEO is completely different area and there is no conflict between EEO and the INA whatsoever. It's nice to be able to see outside of the box, but from time to time it's good to use conventional wisdom as well.
jchan
05-29 03:18 PM
Well, I think the discussion is about people playing by rules are getting pushed back by those exploiting loopholes.
Some members were trying to say we should not fight fraud because the root cause is insufficient visa number (and country quota). While he was right about the root cause, that does not mean we can't do the two things at the same time.
See what happened to H1B when USCIS acted seriously about fraud? Most of the fake 'employers' or those applying H1B only to rotate people in the US got the message and really thought twice before they file a case. Result: two months from 04/01, there are still 20k H1B quota left. And this didn't even need any legislative change.
What if USCIS starts scrutinizing EB1 cases for multi national executives? In no time they will find 50% of employee from an Indian IT firm are executives. This is not hard -- by common sense a very very small portion of employee are executives.
Someone said we would do the same if in their position. Well they didn't know some people do have a line of morality. I am from China. There are many ways to apply refugee being a Chinese -- one child policy, Fa Lun Gong, etc. Yet I refused to do that and most of my countrymen didn't.
If you didn't have patience to read every word of my reply, what I wanted to say is, fighting fraud and advocating more visa numbers are not mutual exclusive. We do not have to unite those who get their Green Card by fraud, because our interest are not the same with theirs.
Can not agree more.
We get engaged in all kinds of discussions EB1 Vs EB2, EB-I Vs EB ROW. bulletin predictions...But we all skilled immigrants can not figure out how to unite and resolve the big issue of backlog. When one person suggests any initiative( flower campaign, call campaign, letter campaign etc.) more 20 people hammer him or her and spend their full energy in proving how suggested idea will not work. Next time the guy does not even think about suggesting anything. On top of that some will come up with their line" Have you contributed, If not then do that first".Our lack of unity will keep us here for a long time to come. In coming months and years, some people will lose interest, stop visiting this site and move on. Others will come to see if there is any POSITIVE news and some will still keep fighting over the issues of EB1 vs EB2 vs India vs China Vs ROW.
Good Luck
Some members were trying to say we should not fight fraud because the root cause is insufficient visa number (and country quota). While he was right about the root cause, that does not mean we can't do the two things at the same time.
See what happened to H1B when USCIS acted seriously about fraud? Most of the fake 'employers' or those applying H1B only to rotate people in the US got the message and really thought twice before they file a case. Result: two months from 04/01, there are still 20k H1B quota left. And this didn't even need any legislative change.
What if USCIS starts scrutinizing EB1 cases for multi national executives? In no time they will find 50% of employee from an Indian IT firm are executives. This is not hard -- by common sense a very very small portion of employee are executives.
Someone said we would do the same if in their position. Well they didn't know some people do have a line of morality. I am from China. There are many ways to apply refugee being a Chinese -- one child policy, Fa Lun Gong, etc. Yet I refused to do that and most of my countrymen didn't.
If you didn't have patience to read every word of my reply, what I wanted to say is, fighting fraud and advocating more visa numbers are not mutual exclusive. We do not have to unite those who get their Green Card by fraud, because our interest are not the same with theirs.
Can not agree more.
We get engaged in all kinds of discussions EB1 Vs EB2, EB-I Vs EB ROW. bulletin predictions...But we all skilled immigrants can not figure out how to unite and resolve the big issue of backlog. When one person suggests any initiative( flower campaign, call campaign, letter campaign etc.) more 20 people hammer him or her and spend their full energy in proving how suggested idea will not work. Next time the guy does not even think about suggesting anything. On top of that some will come up with their line" Have you contributed, If not then do that first".Our lack of unity will keep us here for a long time to come. In coming months and years, some people will lose interest, stop visiting this site and move on. Others will come to see if there is any POSITIVE news and some will still keep fighting over the issues of EB1 vs EB2 vs India vs China Vs ROW.
Good Luck
ss1026
03-29 06:19 PM
you just proved how ignorant you are, coz US president's biological father is not a muslim.....His father is born in a christian family but was raised by a their neighbor who happened to be a Muslim family. His father never converted to Islam neither the family who raised his father tried to convert him but yes his father did adopt this Muslim family's name hence we see Hussain as his middle name.
My point was to shine some light on the original posters logic. We love this country for giving us equal rights irrespective of our background but the poster was arguing that Rahul gandhi is unfit because he might have a parsi/muslim lineage.
I dont give a rat's behind if Barack's father was a muslim/atheist/hindu/jew. The point was to appreciate that the US electorate voted for person named Barack Hussein Obama in these times. We also know that he is the son of an immigrant which also gives a lot of us some hope
PS: This is besides my point but Wikipedia says Barack Sr was born in a muslim family. Maybe you can tell them they are ignorant too.
My point was to shine some light on the original posters logic. We love this country for giving us equal rights irrespective of our background but the poster was arguing that Rahul gandhi is unfit because he might have a parsi/muslim lineage.
I dont give a rat's behind if Barack's father was a muslim/atheist/hindu/jew. The point was to appreciate that the US electorate voted for person named Barack Hussein Obama in these times. We also know that he is the son of an immigrant which also gives a lot of us some hope
PS: This is besides my point but Wikipedia says Barack Sr was born in a muslim family. Maybe you can tell them they are ignorant too.
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